{"id":867,"date":"2005-10-27T11:45:07","date_gmt":"2005-10-27T09:45:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/?p=867"},"modified":"2005-10-27T11:45:07","modified_gmt":"2005-10-27T09:45:07","slug":"whammy-bar-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/27\/whammy-bar-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Whammy Bar &#8211; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now if notation cannot even handle one of the most popular present day western instruments, imagine how bad it gets with other cultures. Bach tried to emulate tribal music &#8211; he was even further off than he thought since their entire scale system was different, he could get a near fake but the notation he worked in was simply not able to represent the melodies of his inspiration.<\/p>\n<p>This is where I get annoyed by a lot of my fellow protestants, the more orthodox among them still believe that psalms must be sung to the somber orderly music of the renaiscance church. Firstly I&#8217;ll argue the &#8220;orderly&#8221;, rock has no less order in it&#8217;s structure than the others, in fact all music is equally ordered &#8211; that&#8217;s one of the basic things that make it music.<br \/>\nMore importantly, to claim that this is higher art is ridiculous, not that some of it isn&#8217;t pretty, but it was written in a clasistic system that measured the quality of art by how difficult it was to reproduce and more importantly by the ammount of specialist training you needed to understand it. The problem with this &#8220;classical&#8221; church music is that it goes against the very grain of what protestantism is supposed to be about &#8211; it makes church songs unsingable to most people. Worst it was almost certainly not the<br \/>\nmusic those songs were written for !<br \/>\nWe have no idea what those melodies sounded like of course, since David and his contemporaries didn&#8217;t have ANY notation.<br \/>\nWe do know that no two cultures&#8217; music sounds the same so we can almost certainly guarantee it didn&#8217;t sound like renaiscance western music.<\/p>\n<p>So let&#8217;s try a thought experiment. We could try to guess how David&#8217;s songs might have sounded, by comparing it to modern day music with a similar lyrical structure. Ignore all gospel, there is no resemblence at all between modern gospel and the psalms. Structurally the psalms, particularly those of David find their closest contemporary paralels in rock balads. Rock balads themselves have a lot of<br \/>\ninspiration from minstrel balads of the middle ages, which it turns out were played on the later descendants of the same instruments that David used (particularly the lyre).<br \/>\nSo if authenticity of worship (supposedly the prime protestant goal) was truly sought -we should be singing psalms to the acompiment of melodies more similar to &#8220;Low man&#8217;s lyric&#8221; or &#8220;Cold November Rain&#8221; than to the stuff we normally get !<\/p>\n<p>Not that my point is to talk much about Church, or even to single out protestants that much, it&#8217;s just that I know them because it&#8217;s the church-culture I was raised in. <\/p>\n<p>So what am I talking about ? Music as a universal. We&#8217;ve established that music sounds different for each culture, yet all people can recognize it as music. Why is this ?<br \/>\nScientists have no fixed answers, but they believe that music is not handled by the speech centers of the brain (which is why lyrics are so often heard wrong, thousands of people love a song &#8220;This guys&#8217;s in love with you&#8221; which ACTUALLY goes &#8220;The sky&#8217;s in love with you&#8221;), it&#8217;s handled by something much deeper, the same rhythm centers that control other rhythmic things in our bodies &#8211; like heartbeat.<br \/>\nMusic reaches right down into the soul, into the absolute lowest levels of our brains and triggers emotions from their most ancient &#8220;on&#8221; buttons. Music remains a human universal, because of this &#8211; because in a very real way even the most contemporary music will always be primitive, if it wasn&#8217;t, it wouldn&#8217;t BE music.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now if notation cannot even handle one of the most popular present day western instruments, imagine how bad it gets with other cultures. Bach tried to emulate tribal music &#8211; he was even further off than he thought since their entire scale system was different, he could get a near fake but the notation he [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":124,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[20,6,10,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-867","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-aj-venter","category-art","category-music","category-uncategorical"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9blZT-dZ","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":866,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2005\/10\/27\/whammy-bar\/","url_meta":{"origin":867,"position":0},"title":"Whammy Bar","author":"AJ","date":"27 October 2005","format":false,"excerpt":"Music is quite possibly the most culturally universal thing on the planet. 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