{"id":1833,"date":"2009-02-18T01:43:51","date_gmt":"2009-02-17T23:43:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/?p=1833"},"modified":"2009-02-18T02:05:29","modified_gmt":"2009-02-18T00:05:29","slug":"wikipedia-art-so-irrelevant-we-cant-stop-talking-about-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/18\/wikipedia-art-so-irrelevant-we-cant-stop-talking-about-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Wikipedia Art: so irrelevant we can&#8217;t stop talking about it (updated)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>More 50-50, keep \/ delete discussions around <a href=\"http:\/\/wikipediaart.org\/\">Wikipedia Art<\/a>, but now <a href=\"http:\/\/rhizome.org\/editorial\/2360\">the debate is on Rhizome<\/a>, and by the gatekeepers of, and participants in, the art blogosphere. I particularly love <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lab404.com\/\">Curt Cloninger&#8217;s<\/a> response to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tommoody.us\/archives\/2009\/02\/17\/daniel-rigal-toughs-it-out\/\">Tom Moody<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/rhizome.org\/editorial\/2360\">Rhizome<\/a>. Moody is a kind of anti-Lichty, being just as voiciferous in his dislike of the project, as Lichty has with regards to what he deems as its importance. Yay, platform. Happy to provide it for both of you. You&#8217;re great collaborators.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lists.thing.net\/pipermail\/idc\/2009-February\/thread.html#3394\">iDC discussion<\/a> has some nice tidbits, too.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>More 50-50, keep \/ delete discussions around Wikipedia Art, but now the debate is on Rhizome, and by the gatekeepers of, and participants in, the art blogosphere. I particularly love Curt Cloninger&#8217;s response to Tom Moody on Rhizome. Moody is a kind of anti-Lichty, being just as voiciferous in his dislike of the project, as [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6,3,27,7,38,9,8,25,2,19,5,12,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art","category-art-and-tech","category-creative-commons","category-me","category-milwaukee-art","category-pop-culture","category-re-blog-tidbits","category-reviews","category-south-african-art","category-stimulus","category-technology","category-theory","category-uncategorical"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9blZT-tz","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1842,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/18\/what-is-important\/","url_meta":{"origin":1833,"position":0},"title":"What is important","author":"nathaniel","date":"18 February 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Although I've been keeping a low profile in the public debates about Wikipedia Art, I have had a few ongoing and private discussions with its critics and supporters. 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