{"id":1828,"date":"2009-02-15T20:56:22","date_gmt":"2009-02-15T18:56:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/?p=1828"},"modified":"2009-02-15T20:56:22","modified_gmt":"2009-02-15T18:56:22","slug":"wikipedia-art-is-dead-long-live-wikipedia-art","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/15\/wikipedia-art-is-dead-long-live-wikipedia-art\/","title":{"rendered":"Wikipedia Art is dead. Long live Wikipedia Art"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The art work \/ page has been deleted from Wikipedia, approximately 12 hours after its birth. But it is not dead, merely transformed &#8211; performatively un-uttered and soon to be resurrected in an\/other form. Watch this space for upcoming\/ongoing press and archives and interventions that are all part of <a href=\"http:\/\/wikipediaart.org\">Wikipedia Art<\/a> as a work. In the meanwhile, my favorite fragment of the piece thus far is the performance it engendered <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Wikipedia_Art\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:VPM#Help._I_have_created_a_monster.21\">here<\/a>. (These will be archived elsewhere soon, under the necessary GFDL license.)<\/p>\n<p>It should be duly noted that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Wikipedia broke their own rules in deleting this post, citing that it broke their rules, which should never be broken. The discussion that began surrounding its deletion was NOT closed, and thus the page should have been given at least 24 hours (most are given 3 to 5 days). Endorsers of the deletion claim that the ends justify the means, but rule-breaking begetting rule-breaking by the enforcers seems like a stretch for truly objective readers \/ editors \/ Wikipedians. Admitting that&#8217;s the case, fearing the &#8220;setting of a precedent&#8221; &#8211; as some express in the above links &#8211; does not make it any better; worse, in fact. Obviously, even if the Wikipedia community does not see Wikipedia Art as a &#8220;valid&#8221; intervention, they have proved it to be a necessary one (and thus valid on a much larger and more important scale).<\/li>\n<li>The Wikipedians behind the delete (and lock-down &#8211; no one can recreate the entry) also went so far as to erase the entire <em>history<\/em> of the Wikipedia Art page &#8211; there is no record of the &#8220;work&#8221; (in its initial manifestation on Wikipedia) and its transformations, other than in the debates linked to above (and a few other snippets of arguing I didn&#8217;t bother posting right now).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Poor form, gentleman. We&#8217;ll have archives and updates live on <a href=\"http:\/\/wikipediaart.org\">WikipediaArt.org<\/a> soon.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The art work \/ page has been deleted from Wikipedia, approximately 12 hours after its birth. But it is not dead, merely transformed &#8211; performatively un-uttered and soon to be resurrected in an\/other form. Watch this space for upcoming\/ongoing press and archives and interventions that are all part of Wikipedia Art as a work. In [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[6,3,27,7,38,9,29,2,19,12,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1828","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-art","category-art-and-tech","category-creative-commons","category-me","category-milwaukee-art","category-pop-culture","category-research","category-south-african-art","category-stimulus","category-theory","category-uncategorical"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p9blZT-tu","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1957,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/06\/02\/wikipedia-art-in-venice-call-for-remixes\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":0},"title":"Wikipedia Art in Venice: call for remixes","author":"nathaniel","date":"02 June 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"SEE THE CALL AND THE REMIXES SO FAR Wikipedia Art \u00e2\u20ac\u201c originally an editable encyclopedia entry as art work \u00e2\u20ac\u201c applied for and was denied citizenship on Wikipedia. It now seeks refugee status in Venice through the establishment of The Wikipedia Art Embassy. Encyclopedic ambassadors, Scott Kildall and Nathaniel Stern,\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;art&quot;","block_context":{"text":"art","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/category\/art\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1814,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/15\/wikipedia-art-retaliation\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":1},"title":"Wikipedia Art: RETALIATION","author":"nathaniel","date":"15 February 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Wikipedians are not only critical of Wikipedia Art (which has already been marked for deletion, within an hour of launch), but the powers that be are RETALIATING. Make sure Wikipedia Art, and its collaborators, are not punished for their work! * The page on me (Nathaniel Stern) as an artist\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;art&quot;","block_context":{"text":"art","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/category\/art\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1806,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/14\/wikipedia-art\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":2},"title":"Wikipedia Art","author":"nathaniel","date":"14 February 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Wikipedia Art launch - TODAY! SEE THE INTERVIEW A collaborative project initiated by Nathaniel Stern and Scott Kildall, Wikipedia Art is art composed on Wikipedia, and thus art that anyone can edit. Since the work itself manifests as a conventional Wikipedia page, would-be art editors are required to follow Wikipedia's\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;art&quot;","block_context":{"text":"art","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/category\/art\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1831,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/17\/durova-wikipedia-art-and-media-restoration\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":3},"title":"Durova: Wikipedia Art and media restoration","author":"nathaniel","date":"17 February 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Durova: Wikipedia Art and media restoration A worthy re-post, not really related to the Wikipedia Art project. I don't think my own work is exactly suitable, but hopefully some of my readers might be able to get involved. Wikipedia had one of its more interesting deletion discussions overnight. \u00c2\u00a0A page\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;art&quot;","block_context":{"text":"art","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/category\/art\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":1816,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2009\/02\/15\/wikipedia-art-update\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":4},"title":"Wikipedia Art update (and updated)","author":"nathaniel","date":"15 February 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Lots of cool edits to the page - see the history as well. Huge debate roaring as well. My favorite quote here (followed by mini argument) is by Wikipedia user \"shmeck,\" aka contemporary artist Shane Mecklenburger: KEEP The Wikipedia Art page is a self-aware example of Wikipedia's mission of collective\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;art&quot;","block_context":{"text":"art","link":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/category\/art\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2241,"url":"https:\/\/nathanielstern.com\/blog\/2010\/08\/16\/august-19th-wikipedia-art-performance-at-benrimon-contemporary-nyc\/","url_meta":{"origin":1828,"position":5},"title":"August 19th: Wikipedia Art performance at Benrimon Contemporary, NYC","author":"nathaniel","date":"16 August 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"August 19th @ Benrimon Contemporary, part of Younger Than Moses: Idle Worship 514 West 24th Street on the 2nd floor An evening of performances & screenings by Ryan V. 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