Comments on: UCD Intercorporeality and Intersubjectivity Conference http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/ implications since february two thousand and three Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:54:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Naomi Itami http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-355107 Naomi Itami Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:47:29 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-355107 HI Nathaniel, Your paper sounds very interesting. I am getting my MA in Photography at UNiversity for the Arts London and writing my dissertation entitled The Philosophy of Touch, using embodiment ethicists like Weiss and Grosz and Gilligan. Would you mind sending me a link to your paper__-there is a real dearth here in the UK in this area, particularly with regard to lens-based art and media...With best regards, Naomi HI Nathaniel,

Your paper sounds very interesting. I am getting my MA in Photography at UNiversity for the Arts London and writing my dissertation entitled The Philosophy of Touch, using embodiment ethicists like Weiss and Grosz and Gilligan. Would you mind sending me a link to your paper__-there is a real dearth here in the UK in this area, particularly with regard to lens-based art and media…With best regards, Naomi

]]> By: nathaniel http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-353956 nathaniel Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:43:58 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-353956 sure, i'm sending you a link to the submit dissertation, so you have full context. sure, i’m sending you a link to the submit dissertation, so you have full context.

]]> By: Maan http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-353949 Maan Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:38:34 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-353949 Hi Nathaniel, Well, I guess the Bill above never took up your offer to read the entire paper, but I would love to do so in his place. I am a Mphil student working on the notion of 'ecstasy' in the visual arts. One of my claims is that the notion of ecstasy could help one develop an understanding of contemporary art practice as intersubjective, interdisciplinary and intercorporeal... It's a long story... Your paper for this conference sounds very interesting in this respect, which is why I was wondering whether it is published somewhere, or whether you could send it to me. Kind regards, Maan Hi Nathaniel,
Well, I guess the Bill above never took up your offer to read the entire paper, but I would love to do so in his place. I am a Mphil student working on the notion of ‘ecstasy’ in the visual arts. One of my claims is that the notion of ecstasy could help one develop an understanding of contemporary art practice as intersubjective, interdisciplinary and intercorporeal… It’s a long story… Your paper for this conference sounds very interesting in this respect, which is why I was wondering whether it is published somewhere, or whether you could send it to me.
Kind regards, Maan

]]> By: nathaniel http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-308959 nathaniel Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:40:23 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-308959 Actually, Bill, none of these terms are new. Not one. They are all defined in the actual paper using existing sources, and then I further the theory with my research, and do indeed put it towards useful ends. If you want to actually engage with my research, then I'm happy to send the full paper - not just the abstract - along for you to read. I'm sorry if this is a bit too dense for you, but a style that does not have what you are looking for does not mean it lacks substance (and by the way, while you write for the general reader, in this paper, I do not, and never claim to; nor do I paradoxically attach "phd" to the end of my name just to make myself sound more important). It's dishonest of you to try and say my paper lacks anything useful without having read the actual paper. The only one blowing language around for its own sake here is you and your unsubstantiated criticism. So there. Actually, Bill, none of these terms are new. Not one. They are all defined in the actual paper using existing sources, and then I further the theory with my research, and do indeed put it towards useful ends. If you want to actually engage with my research, then I’m happy to send the full paper – not just the abstract – along for you to read. I’m sorry if this is a bit too dense for you, but a style that does not have what you are looking for does not mean it lacks substance (and by the way, while you write for the general reader, in this paper, I do not, and never claim to; nor do I paradoxically attach “phd” to the end of my name just to make myself sound more important). It’s dishonest of you to try and say my paper lacks anything useful without having read the actual paper. The only one blowing language around for its own sake here is you and your unsubstantiated criticism. So there.

]]> By: Bill Adams http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-308945 Bill Adams Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:47:05 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-308945 Too many neologisms and diffuse metaphors to make much sense. Language for its own sake is like a song: entertaining but not conceptually useful. Too many neologisms and diffuse metaphors to make much sense. Language for its own sake is like a song: entertaining but not conceptually useful.

]]> By: nathaniel http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-251634 nathaniel Thu, 15 May 2008 17:42:03 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-251634 sounds yummy. i am no expert on ethics, but if community is her thing, and she, like me, is interested in embodiment, then Jean-Luc Nancy may also be of interest.... sounds yummy. i am no expert on ethics, but if community is her thing, and she, like me, is interested in embodiment, then Jean-Luc Nancy may also be of interest….

]]> By: BradyDale http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-251625 BradyDale Thu, 15 May 2008 16:31:57 +0000 http://nathanielstern.com/blog/2008/05/15/ucd-intercorporeality-and-intersubjectivity-conference/#comment-251625 I'm not 100% sure I followed all of this (OK, I didn't), but it made me think of one of my friends who's about to go into philosophy. She says our whole problem with ethics is that we tend to think about it in terms of individual problems, when, in fact, we are a larger body than individuals and real ethics should be concerned with community decisions, our part in that, and thinking about ourselves as parts of a social body. I think this is maybe dealt with in AFTER VIRTUE by Alisdair McIntyre, but I don't know. She was waving that book while she talked about it, anyway. I’m not 100% sure I followed all of this (OK, I didn’t), but it made me think of one of my friends who’s about to go into philosophy. She says our whole problem with ethics is that we tend to think about it in terms of individual problems, when, in fact, we are a larger body than individuals and real ethics should be concerned with community decisions, our part in that, and thinking about ourselves as parts of a social body.
I think this is maybe dealt with in AFTER VIRTUE by Alisdair McIntyre, but I don’t know. She was waving that book while she talked about it, anyway.

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